. >> joining me is p.j. crowley. good morning. there's been a lot of talk about the number of security personnel, about physical barriers. how serious do you think the security problem was in benghazi? >> well, the security problem was very, very significant in the aftermath of the overthrow of gadhafi, every political faction had its own mini army and as we saw in the attack on the consulate, it was a temporary facility that they came heavily armed. >> and i think there are two questions here. one is about how much security is necessary, but there's also sort of a finesse situation that goes on. ambassador pat kennedy said part of the reason you have a presence in a place like libya is outreach to the population to keep lines of communication open and that can be difficult when you're behind high walls and under heavy guard. so how difficult is that balance and having said that, there were requests for more security. so how do you find the answer? >> of course you have to split the responsibility. outside the perimeter of diploma